'Fiscal Cliff' Debate Accompanies Obama to Montco

President Obama visits Hatfield toy company as part of tour pushing extension of payroll tax cuts.

President Barack Obama visited a toy factory in Hatfield Township on Friday, citing it as an example of the type of business that would suffer if Congress does not act soon to prevent the country from running over the "fiscal cliff," a series of tax increases and cuts in spending that are due to come into effect at the beginning of the new year.

In remarks broadcast live on C-SPAN, Obama called Hatfield-based K'Nex, which makes kits of interlocking pieces that allow children to construct their own toys, "one of the few companies in the toy industry that has aggressively moved jobs back here [to the U.S. from overseas],"

The President said middle-class consumers will have money "to buy more K'Nex" if Democratic and Republican legislators can "get out of our comfort zones" to reach a compromise that would extend payroll tax cuts. Middle class families will pay an average of $2,200 more in taxes in 2013 if the tax cuts expire, Obama said.

Obama asked that people make sure their "voices are heard" by their local federal legislators.

"I need folks like you, the people here in Hatfield and in Pennsylvania, to get this done," Obama said.

Republicans, meanwhile, said the "massive spending spree" of Obama's "Democrat allies" in Congress was to blame for leading the country towards the "fiscal cliff." A statement sent to the media Friday by the Republican National Committee said Obama's proposal to raise taxes on small businesses and individuals earning more than $250,000 per year would cause the loss of an estimated 30,800 jobs in Pennsylvania.

Locally, a Perkiomen Township business owner served as the standard bearer for the Republican message. Jerry Gorski, owner of Gorski Engineering, starred in a video issued by House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA).

"This notion of $250,000 being the top two percent or the wealthy people in America ignores the way most small businesses work in America," Gorski said in the video.

About a half mile from the site of the President's visit, a group of anti-tax activists staged a protest along the shoulder of Route 309.

The President traveled from Philadelphia International Airport, where he landed shortly after 11:00 a.m., to Hatfield aboard the Marine One helicopter, which minimized the road closures that would have been associated with a traditional motorcade. Security was predictably tight in the vicinity of the K'Nex premises, as a network of law enforcement professionals from across Montgomery County coordinated to strictly control access the landing zone.

TrickyDicky December 01, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Sounds like a lot of right wing birthers chiming in here. I love to see them stew in their hate. Slow cooking at its best.
Joe Phelps December 01, 2012 at 08:36 PM
My response also. What a hypocrit. Obams responsible for 6 Trillion Dollars of debt. He sure drove us quickly to cliff he wants to take us down!!
Joe Phelps December 01, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Agreed, what happened @ Benghazi, what happened to the Dem's response about the seriousness of "The Charge"? Financial cliff! This adminstration added 6 trillion dollars of debt in less than 4 years, no talk of spending less. We are fast heading to a country mimicking Cuba. We in such doodoo!
Joe Phelps December 01, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Bizarro world you live in! So the minority in your World have no rights??? What right track are you referencing? We are the youngest and strongest Country in the world. It is freedom to compete that accomplished this. Not a bunch of bureaucrats limiting our freedom, or central planners talking nonsense about fairness! We are at a tipping point where there are too many takers and not enough producers. You cannot tax your way out of the Impending Fiscal cliff.
Tom Bates December 01, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Don't you mean "we"? or are you not American?
Tom Bates December 01, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Yes, I heard he's also a muslim from Kenya, too!
Billy Bobber December 01, 2012 at 11:32 PM
It amazes me how far behind some people are in the battle to win our freedom back! Obama is half white & half black according to his story, not sure why the racism bs still floats. Bottom line is he has done little in the first 4 years. That's a fact! He lies to us, as do many politicians. Any time I see someone defend these liars, it shows me that the people who love him so much are clueless frreloaders,upport laziness, & lack morals. As far as leaving the country because Obama is a piece of shi$. He can blow me & so can the rest of you pu$$ies! Dumbest thing I ever heard! It's a sad day in the US when the majority of the people support mediocrity! Debate that!
Joanne Zolnierek December 01, 2012 at 11:52 PM
Joanne Zolnierek December 01, 2012 at 11:55 PM
LOVE Mayor Koch......to the Point!
Joanne Zolnierek December 01, 2012 at 11:58 PM
AMAZING.....isn't it.....unbelievable that anyone voted for this man!!
Anthony Wayne December 02, 2012 at 01:11 AM
The United States does NOT have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. This is the fault of republicans, democrats, and the majority of american voters. Until the spending is brought into line, no meaningful progress will be made. The argument that raising revenue by taxing more will save us, is folly. In fact, the opposite is true. The more we send to Washington the more they waste. The more we tax citizens, the slower the economy will grow. When china stops buying our debt, the house of cards falls. I believe that most americans have a cursory understanding of economics at best, leading to poor choices in leadership. They believe the lies, simply because they don't know what the truth is. Educated voters are the answer. They will bring common sense back to the proper role of government, which currently possesses very little.
Mike M December 02, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Here is some quick education for voters: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/biggest-holders-of-us-gov-t-debt.html China owns a small percentage of our debt. They're not going to stop buying our debt because they need our consumer spending. And Japan is going to soon pass China in terms of entities to which we owe debt. We the People are actually our own # 1 debtor / creditor. I hope the economic knowledge you accuse us of lacking will be increase with reading the link. In terms of spending, I'll join your call to reduce some spending. Instead of militarizing our national boundaries with Mexico, why don't we spend that money on finding, fining, and seizing the assets of employers who continue to employ illegal aliens. There will be less illegal crossings if there are few employers willing to hire illegals. Imagine the increased tax revenue from employers having to hire American workers at market rates, coupled with the reduced spending on dealing with illegal aliens. To go a step further, with comprehensive immigration reform, would grow our economy by leaps and bounds. http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj32n1/cj32n1-12.pdf We also spend far too much money on prisons. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/us/03prison.html?_r=0 Our continued failure of a "war on drugs" is also costly. http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v32n6/cpr32n6-6.html Just some food for thought about cutting spending in several manners that raise revenue as well.
Kurt Reimer December 02, 2012 at 02:13 PM
OK I JOINED TWICE ALREADY. Are you going to lose this comment Too?
Kurt Reimer December 02, 2012 at 02:28 PM
Obama has every right to come visit Knex in Hatfield, he's pushing what he thinks is the best agenda for avoiding the fiscal cliff. It's not like a vacation (though he's allowed to do that, too (maybe you should all give up your own vacations, & contribute the money to the debt crisis)). Going over the fiscal cliff on purpose is STUPID! All the cuts are on just 1/4 - 1/3 of the budget, not SS/Medicare/Entitlments/DebtSerice. I'm as Liberal as anyone, I voted for Obama, but I recognize that taxes will only ever be 10%-20% (at most) of the debt crisis solution. Those sitting the prettiest should pay some more taxes, but the rest of us will have to get less from the Govt. Obama said this himself. Boehner, the House GOP, TeaPartiers and the Norquist Zombies should just agree & get over it. THEN they can turn around & say "OK, WE put our money where our mouth is, now YOU DO THE SAME." and maybe we'll actually get someplace. Many of my fellow Liberals are dead-set against any entitlement reform, we need to get over it, too. Instead of the Ryan plan ("Here's a small voucher, now get lost you're on your own") we should allow the retirement age to gradually rise to 70-72 by 2035 or so. It's already going up to 67 by 2025.
Kurt Reimer December 02, 2012 at 02:35 PM
"The United States does NOT have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. " This is pure partisanship. The only objective truth is that we have a debt problem. Yes, we must solve it with spending cuts more than tax increases, but our taxes are much lower now than during most all the past 8-9 decades, increases are a *very* reasonable part of the solution.
Kurt Reimer December 02, 2012 at 02:45 PM
Newsflash: The election is over. You lost. The horse is dead, stop beating it, You're just raising flies. We had a few CIA in Benghazi. They took a whole 20-30 min to get moving.
Kurt Reimer December 02, 2012 at 02:57 PM
"The more we send to Washington the more they waste. The more we tax citizens, the slower the economy will grow." Your first sentence may be true, in a purely arithmetic sense, but it is unfair. Rightwingers speak of Govt waste like it's their one true religion, but the fact is every large organization, pub or private, wastes money and the bigger it is the more they waste. Your second sentence is debatable, you are making a very partisan ideological assumption about where we are on the Laffer Curve, and not examining it at all. I see evidence that you are wrong. A good decade ago now Bush put in BIG tax cuts for everybody, that benefitted the rich the most. Then he cut Capital Gains in Half, almost exclusively a gift to the Rich, the so-called "Job Creators". Maybe you didn't notice, but we are NOT up to our necks in good highpaying jobs these days. What we DO have instead is unprecedented wealth concentration, unheard of since the 1920s. You give the wealthy a bunch of new money, and they do with it what they do best: Make more money for themselves. That's why they are the wealthy in the 1st place. Bully for them, but drop the "JobCreator" bullpoop.
patrick December 02, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Vic, go get an education. Your stupidity is overwelming. We are a socialist country. Police, fire-fighters, hospitals, schools, paved roads, the military-- these are are all socialistic ideas. Republican=stupid, uneducated, religious hypocrites
patrick December 02, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Bobber, yeh, we know what you've been bobbing on. Republican=stupid. You helped prove a point.
patrick December 02, 2012 at 04:01 PM
The educated voters did bring common sense back. The problem is that your too stupid to see it. There is a reason why the majority of college grads vote dem. Republican=stupid
1 December 02, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Ike, Obama won. Period. End of story. If you don't like it, get the funk out. It's really that simple.
1 December 02, 2012 at 04:37 PM
Democrats won. Period. If you don't like Democracy (majority rule) get a passport and leave.
patrick December 03, 2012 at 03:14 AM
We learned it from the republicans. Republican=stupid. Go read a book, if you know how to.
Abraham December 03, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Several comments here are right on. It's not a spending problem or a revenue problem or an entitlement problem. It's a three legged stool. We have a debt problem and it's going to take major changing in all three - spending, revenues (taxes) and entitlements.
Abraham December 03, 2012 at 01:11 PM
Tea partiers and many Republicans need to wake up and realize that this is not white bread 1955 America anymore. The GOP will not win another presidential election until they change their policies and become a more inclusive party. Running Rubio or Jindal will not solve the problem. The percentage of white males in the total electorate is falling with every election. This challenge is effecting the GOP in the Senate and will soon have a much greater effect in House races.
patrick December 03, 2012 at 01:12 PM
We have a revenue problem. Raise taxes. You don't want to pay. Then leave, go away. This is a socialist country. You don't want to participate, then go away. Please, your absense will help our gene pool. Republican=stupid
Smedley December 03, 2012 at 03:18 PM
You can stick that "Fiscal Cliff" up your you know what. Another stupid media talking point to shove down our throats. I'm sure our representatives both republican and democrat will be raising the debt a few more trillion while cutting programs for the public. What about cutting all programs across the board a few percent? Why don't they cut some of the trillions they spend on the military every year? Do we really need over 850 military bases around the world? How about cutting some of the premium healthcare they and their families get for life? What about cutting the automatic raises they get every year without voting on it? How about cutting the billions of dollars we give away for free to other countries, some which don't even like us? I have no doubt the republicans and democrats will drive us off a cliff alright. But don't blame me. I didn't vote for them.
Smedley December 03, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Anthony Wayne December 03, 2012 at 09:00 PM
I can offer no better argument for my position than the comments of kurt and patrick. The thought that one side or the other is the problem IS a part of the problem. Both sides are wrong. They wont even talk about real cuts and reform of entitlements. They trim from "baseline" budgets. not real cuts. If you make 50k per year and spend 80k per year, putting the extra 30k on a credit card, how long will you survive? This is exactly what we do in the US. Interest rates are now at historic lows. We earn 2.2t and spend 3.5t. What will happen to our ability to service this debt when the artificlly low rates rise or when our credit rating is bumped down again? How is this responsible governance? How is this common sense? How is this good for the next generation? The drug dealers are in charge of the pharmacy. It's like you live in a parallel universe. Wake up.
Ike December 06, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Yes , 1 , i know who won.Iam a democate , but will be changing to INDY. Both Obamama , AND Mitt THE nit , suck. I was just asking who is the worst President , since most think Carter was. 1 and dont want to lleave the USA. I just want someone who cares about us. Not this ,,, its like who is most love. None of them really care about the USA its looks like. Damn shame.


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